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Co-Q-10 Ubiquinol and L-carnitine Raising Heart Ejection fractions
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Heart_Builder

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Posted: 2/16/2011 6:28:40 PM

I assume Dr Sears is just pushing his supplements because his reported results with ubiquinol are way to good for me to believe.

But my question is can ubiquinol raise Heart Ejection fractions like this. Or is this just smoke mirrors and hype by Dr Sears?????????????????



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Have a look at this:

Time Dose Form of CoQ10 Blood Level Ejection Fraction
June 450 mg/d Ubiquinone (Old Form) 1.6 mg/L 15%
Sept 450 mg/d Ubiquinol (Accel) 6.4 mg/L 35% – 40%

This man is 65 years old. In June, he was taking 450 mg of the old style of CoQ10, and his plasma blood levels were only 1.6 mg/L. That is far below what I recommend based on what I’ve seen over the past 20 years.

This case was no different: He was clearly deficient in CoQ10, even though he was taking 450 mg of the old form a day.



Now, look what happened by September after he started taking the “reduced” form of CoQ10, the kind you find in Accel.

His blood levels of CoQ10 shot up by 300%.

By taking the reduced form of CoQ10, his blood levels went from what I believe is poor to excellent.

And, take a look at his ejection fraction. That’s the percentage of blood that’s pumped with each heartbeat. It increased from 15% to 35-40%. Suddenly, his heart is pumping with two to three times the power he had when he was taking the old form of CoQ10.

Here’s another one…

My patient “A.D.” is 74 years old.

Time Dose Form of CoQ10 Blood Level
November 400 mg/d Ubiquinone (Old Form) 1.26 mg/L
September 50 mg/d Ubiquinol (Accel) 2.78 mg/L

This one is even more dramatic. When I had him on the old form of CoQ10, I had to give him 400 mg every day, just to get his blood levels to 1.26 mg/L. That was an improvement, but it was still too low to help his heart.

When Accel became available, I gave him just 50 mg a day, and his blood levels more than doubled.

In this case, Accel ramped up his blood level 16 times higher for the equivalent dose. That makes all the difference. It’s not enough just to take CoQ10. You have to get your blood levels high enough to feel the real benefit.

This “reduced” form of CoQ10 is easier to absorb and use. That means your blood levels stay higher, longer. And that’s what really counts.

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http://www.alsearsmd.com/coq10-levels-his-blood-levels-quadrupled/



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Posted: 2/17/2011 1:10:24 PM

jgoldstrich:  Do you know if one can expect the same result with L-carnitine, acetyl-L-carnitine, and acetyl-L-carnitine arginate ... or is one form better for cardiac function?



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jgoldstrich

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Posted: 2/17/2011 2:53:34 PM

all of the research, which is not extensive, is with L-carnitine


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Posted: 2/17/2011 6:39:00 PM

I would recommend that you take all the ubiquinol by the end of lunch. It energizes and can sometimes interfere with sleep if taken later in the day. You CAN take 1 gram of L-carnitine with each meal if you want to.


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Posted: 2/24/2011 2:39:09 PM

Thank you very much Stuart. HB


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Posted: 2/28/2011 7:29:58 AM

I buy the Jarrow Q absorb which is in proliposomal form.  As Pteut says, take it with half and half.


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Posted: 3/1/2011 6:05:44 AM

LConnolly: Jarrow Q absorb is ubiquinone. Did you mean QH absorb which is ubiquinol?



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col3.3

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Posted: 5/26/2011 10:12:11 AM

Where is the cheapest place for quality Ubiquinol?



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Posted: 6/12/2011 6:04:23 PM

Great Idea.
FCT

I did find a group of cardilogists in my area who do do it.

I will definetely consider it.


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Posted: 7/3/2011 11:26:22 AM

Thanks Lconnolly 
I'll consider it.
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Posted: 7/8/2011 2:53:55 PM

It would be interesting to do a before/after test with some of these different forms of CoQ10. Blood test through DirectLabs costs about $100.


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Heart_Builder

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Posted: 7/8/2011 9:54:49 PM

That is interesting JoeCool but I don't know much about it. HB



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Posted: 7/9/2011 3:24:41 PM

Thanks for the link....I'm having to switch to liquid stuff, can't swallow the big gel caps or pills anymore. Direct Labs is who I use also, check out  the monhly specials. 



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Posted: 7/12/2011 10:01:34 PM

Posted by mistake.


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Posted: 2/2/2012 12:01:09 AM

Hi HB I do drink a lot of water, at home and working, I think I need a high ejection fraction with aortic stenosis, so I can exercise and work.
thanks for the prays, I'm still praying for you everyday.

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Posted: 2/2/2012 8:20:46 AM

Thanks much Vince for the posts. I'm praying for you also. Take care. HB


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Posted: 2/3/2012 9:43:52 AM

HB after doing more research an heart ejection fraction of 72% does looks better than 77%, I'm learning.

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Posted: 2/3/2012 5:23:01 PM

You are getting better Vince. I'll make sure I pray daily for you and We are all learning.
HB


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Posted: 3/23/2012 12:47:57 PM

That's very interesting, HB. I had a CoQ10 level taken years ago, and the upper limit of the range was only 1.07 mcg/mL.
This therapy is way beyond that :)


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Posted: 3/24/2012 9:56:06 AM

solid slim


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Posted: 3/25/2012 9:27:50 PM

looks solid HB

thoughts?


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Posted: 3/26/2012 3:18:10 PM

Wow hope this is the mother lode!


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Posted: 3/27/2012 5:01:59 PM

there is a mention of raising the hef

HeartEjectionFraction raised by lo carb diet

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Posted: 3/27/2012 8:52:26 PM

Thank you very much Dr Goldstrich and Stuart.
Stuart my wife is taking a test but when I can find my headphones I will listen to it. Thanks both of you. Ed


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Posted: 4/27/2012 8:34:32 PM

depends on dose, looks like best to start small I got some locally with 500mg.

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Posted: 5/18/2012 6:09:38 PM

Take care Stuart I hope it goes great for you. HB


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Duplicate post by mistake. HB



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